I struggle finding shirts that fit how I want then too, but I loved these I ordered the navy and black and im excited to get more colors. I like that they have a modest neckline and work great as work shirts as well. I would size up if you want more give but I ordered my usual size and they still fit and gave a snatched look. My issue with long sleeves is I can't find something that has compression so it shows my waist. So I end up with shirts that make me boxy so I love, love these. Also the black I would say you can comfortably wear bra-less. I did wear the navy without one as well but I feel personally more comfortable to just do that in the black color.